Sen. Cramer: Trump Campaign Legal Efforts ‘Appropriate,’ Can’t Ignore Signed Affidavits
Zachary Stieber
The election-related litigation launched by President Donald Trump’s campaign is not an attack on democracy but appropriately following processes outlined in the Constitution, Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) said Sunday.
“These are processes that are in our Constitution, in our laws, and they’re not just appropriate, but they’re really an obligation, frankly, to the millions of Americans that President Trump is a reflection of. I know, you know, a lot of people like to think that we’re the reflection of him. He’s the reflection of millions of people that want to see him fight this to the end,” Cramer said during an appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
“I think everyone ought to calm down a little bit. I don’t see this as an attack on our democracy. I mean, we spent four years listening to news shows and liberals discrediting, trying to discredit the Trump administration to the point of spying on him by the last administration. Forty million dollars spent on an independent counsel that started with no evidence and ended proving that there was no evidence. And then, of course, this crazy impeachment. So, I think what we’re experiencing now, everyone ought to just relax and let it play out in the legal way. We’ll be just fine,” he added.
Media outlets and some lawmakers, primarily Democrats, have tried pressuring Trump into conceding to Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, even as Trump’s campaign and others battle in court to contest results in key battleground states, asserting Trump actually won some states where Biden is ahead.
The Epoch Times is not declaring a winner in the presidential race until the litigation plays out.
Trump’s campaign has alleged election fraud. Some of the lawsuits include affidavits from poll workers and observers attesting under the penalty of perjury to witnessed fraud.
“What they’re claiming is that there’s a lot of evidence, and they’re presenting that evidence in cases. Now it’s up to them to present that evidence … And we’ve yet to see a real hearing where evidence was presented. And they’re not obligated to present it, you know, yesterday or tomorrow, although the sooner the better from my perspective,” Cramer told host Chuck Todd.
“I think that to have this process is just fine. And who knows? Remember, we’ve also never in history—in this century or any other century—had a massive vote by mail, you know, balloting where there was things like ballot harvesting and ballot curing, things that we’ve never even heard of before that were taking place,” he continued.
“And frankly, a much, much lower rejection rate of mail-in ballots than just four years ago when there were many fewer of them. So it’s okay to go through this process, make sure it’s being done right, make sure that it never happens again if there are irregularities. We can’t ignore hundreds of signed affidavits. That’s evidence. That’s way more evidence than Robert Mueller had.”
Mueller was a special counsel appointed to probe alleged ties between Trump and his campaign and Russian actors. The so-called Mueller report revealed ex-British spy Christopher Steele’s dossier, which Trump’s rival Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee paid for and was promoted by Democrats for years, had little substantive content.
While Cramer argued Trump’s legal battles are fine, Biden’s chief of staff Ronald Klain charged on ABC’s “This Week” that the president is “rejecting democracy.”
“He has been, as you said at the outset, launching baseless claims of voter fraud, baseless litigation. He’s been rejected by 34 courts, and now these efforts to try to get election officials to overturn the will of the voters,” Klain told host George Stephanopoulos, a former Bill Clinton aide.
“It’s corrosive. It’s harmful. But as [Sen.] Mitt Romney said, it’s not going to change the outcome of what happens here. At 12 noon on Jan. 20, Joe Biden will become the next president of the United States. Everything Donald Trump’s doing now is bad for our democracy. It’s bad for our position, our image in the world, but it’s not going to change what happens here when we get a new president next year.”
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